Comments on: A Study in the Art of Revolution http://gingerandhoney.com/2008/06/10/a-study-in-the-art-of-revolution/ Vocal Remedies Tue, 17 Aug 2010 11:24:32 -0700 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0.1 By: Christos http://gingerandhoney.com/2008/06/10/a-study-in-the-art-of-revolution/comment-page-1/#comment-24 Christos Mon, 16 Jun 2008 14:48:00 +0000 http://watevs.wordpress.com/2008/06/10/a-study-in-the-art-of-revolution/#comment-24 God broke them all when he made you dear...<br/><br/>:)<br/><br/>Sort of.<br/><br/>Your writing talent is like no other,when i read it,it always makes me wonder..<br/>An ponder...<br/>An then wonder for a little while longer.. God broke them all when he made you dear…

:)

Sort of.

Your writing talent is like no other,when i read it,it always makes me wonder..
An ponder…
An then wonder for a little while longer..

]]> By: Emily http://gingerandhoney.com/2008/06/10/a-study-in-the-art-of-revolution/comment-page-1/#comment-23 Emily Sun, 15 Jun 2008 22:59:00 +0000 http://watevs.wordpress.com/2008/06/10/a-study-in-the-art-of-revolution/#comment-23 1. That scares the shit out of me, and not just because it's a blatant violation of personal rights (or something), but because of what you said about what the authorities might perceive as a "gang." When I was in middle school a friend of mine told me about how a bunch of her friends got kicked out of the mall for being a "gang." Note that they weren't gun-toting, sign-throwing, ho-slinging gang members. Just a group of six or more. At the time it was funny, and it was the mall. But it was also Southern Maine and I sort of wonder what constitutes a "gang" at malls in more urban areas.<br/><br/>2/3. Frig. I wish I was as rebellious as you in high school. The edgiest thing I wrote then was a pair of horror stories that were in retrospect pretty shitty. I'd be interested in reaing this essay. And you know what? Your writing is always ace, so I hope you are submitting manuscripts at least every now and then. It's impossible to write without exposing ourselves, even unknowingly. And to befriend a writer is to risk becoming a part of their self-exposure. It can piss people off, but it is perhaps worth it. 1. That scares the shit out of me, and not just because it’s a blatant violation of personal rights (or something), but because of what you said about what the authorities might perceive as a “gang.” When I was in middle school a friend of mine told me about how a bunch of her friends got kicked out of the mall for being a “gang.” Note that they weren’t gun-toting, sign-throwing, ho-slinging gang members. Just a group of six or more. At the time it was funny, and it was the mall. But it was also Southern Maine and I sort of wonder what constitutes a “gang” at malls in more urban areas.

2/3. Frig. I wish I was as rebellious as you in high school. The edgiest thing I wrote then was a pair of horror stories that were in retrospect pretty shitty. I’d be interested in reaing this essay. And you know what? Your writing is always ace, so I hope you are submitting manuscripts at least every now and then. It’s impossible to write without exposing ourselves, even unknowingly. And to befriend a writer is to risk becoming a part of their self-exposure. It can piss people off, but it is perhaps worth it.

]]> By: Jooru http://gingerandhoney.com/2008/06/10/a-study-in-the-art-of-revolution/comment-page-1/#comment-22 Jooru Thu, 12 Jun 2008 10:53:00 +0000 http://watevs.wordpress.com/2008/06/10/a-study-in-the-art-of-revolution/#comment-22 yPoint 1 - One can challenge that law as counter to the implied right to political communication as long as the group targeted has some fairly oblique connection to a political cause. <br/><br/>It's not as if the South Australian government can defend themselves by claiming that if they do not do this it will damage their capacity to function as a government. Well, they can but they'd have to prove that the 'gang' provides a not insubstantial threat.<br/><br/>While they have the power to put that through, I doubt that they could target any group other than a a terrorist or criminal group and the terrorist group would have to be a proven danger to the state. If the group is criminal they may yet survive if they can prove that the majority of their activities are political.<br/><br/>Unfortunately as a law at the moment it can't be challenged as SA have plenary power, I can't imagine that the law won't go unchallenged in the courts once its used. <br/><br/>BTW as long as you have any connection to a criticism of the government or some kind of political platform you can challenge the application of that law to your group.<br/><br/>However, I will need get back to you on the rest of the possible challenges to this law.<br/><br/>Point 3 - That's what makes you better than the average hack and also more likely to be overlooked by those with prejudices. <br/><br/>Organised religion and deep evangelical Christianity are fundamental to my person. I however have and will continue to challenge myself with new ideas. Others will fail to do so. yPoint 1 – One can challenge that law as counter to the implied right to political communication as long as the group targeted has some fairly oblique connection to a political cause.

It’s not as if the South Australian government can defend themselves by claiming that if they do not do this it will damage their capacity to function as a government. Well, they can but they’d have to prove that the ‘gang’ provides a not insubstantial threat.

While they have the power to put that through, I doubt that they could target any group other than a a terrorist or criminal group and the terrorist group would have to be a proven danger to the state. If the group is criminal they may yet survive if they can prove that the majority of their activities are political.

Unfortunately as a law at the moment it can’t be challenged as SA have plenary power, I can’t imagine that the law won’t go unchallenged in the courts once its used.

BTW as long as you have any connection to a criticism of the government or some kind of political platform you can challenge the application of that law to your group.

However, I will need get back to you on the rest of the possible challenges to this law.

Point 3 – That’s what makes you better than the average hack and also more likely to be overlooked by those with prejudices.

Organised religion and deep evangelical Christianity are fundamental to my person. I however have and will continue to challenge myself with new ideas. Others will fail to do so.

]]> By: Ryan http://gingerandhoney.com/2008/06/10/a-study-in-the-art-of-revolution/comment-page-1/#comment-21 Ryan Thu, 12 Jun 2008 01:15:00 +0000 http://watevs.wordpress.com/2008/06/10/a-study-in-the-art-of-revolution/#comment-21 1. eh, i'm of much the same mindset as your roommate. perhaps with a touch more indignance.<br/><br/>2. i'm not surprised by either your rebellion or the reaction. envious, but not surprised.<br/><br/>3. you're on a path to something epic, and leading far beyond the rest of us little people. one day i'll look back and say "i knew her when" and then likely mention i once made you sing karaoke ;) 1. eh, i’m of much the same mindset as your roommate. perhaps with a touch more indignance.

2. i’m not surprised by either your rebellion or the reaction. envious, but not surprised.

3. you’re on a path to something epic, and leading far beyond the rest of us little people. one day i’ll look back and say “i knew her when” and then likely mention i once made you sing karaoke ;)

]]> By: phill http://gingerandhoney.com/2008/06/10/a-study-in-the-art-of-revolution/comment-page-1/#comment-20 phill Tue, 10 Jun 2008 16:05:00 +0000 http://watevs.wordpress.com/2008/06/10/a-study-in-the-art-of-revolution/#comment-20 To point 1. Good lord. <br/><br/>To point 2. I must say I'm jealous. Of your rebellion and of your teacher. Perhaps if I'd had a smattering of both I'd have gone a different path. One that I longed for. <br/><br/>To point 3. Have you ever read Alice Sebold? If not, do so. That is who I imagine your future magnum opus to be written like. Pushing things, pushing personal things, so close to the uncomfortable edge that parts of you will shine through. The true ones will stick around. To point 1. Good lord.

To point 2. I must say I’m jealous. Of your rebellion and of your teacher. Perhaps if I’d had a smattering of both I’d have gone a different path. One that I longed for.

To point 3. Have you ever read Alice Sebold? If not, do so. That is who I imagine your future magnum opus to be written like. Pushing things, pushing personal things, so close to the uncomfortable edge that parts of you will shine through. The true ones will stick around.

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